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Explosive Movement! 12 More Counties Vote Soon

Something extraordinary is happening in Illinois! A dramatic political realignment is quietly unfolding—not through violence or rebellion, but through ballots, constitutional government, and the consent of the governed.

- Voters in downstate Illinois will soon decide whether to explore separating from Cook County.
- 33 counties have already approved measures, with 12 more considering the idea.
- This movement reflects a larger trend of internal secession in the United States.

 

On November 3, voters across downstate Illinois will encounter more than just congressional candidates on their ballots. They will face a pivotal question: Should their county boards communicate with others about the possibility of separating permanently from Cook County, home to Chicago? This proposal envisions forming a new state—a 51st state—seeking admission to the Union. Eleven counties, including Coles, Gallatin, Hamilton, Henderson, Monroe, and Warren, will feature this question, along with several townships in Adams County. Clarifying the stakes, the referendum is nonbinding. A "yes" vote does not create a new state or transfer these counties to Indiana, as some propose. It simply asks whether local officials should begin discussions about what separation might entail. This is the opening conversation—not the final constitutional act.

 

This conversation is spreading like wildfire. Since 2020, thirty-three counties have approved similar measures, with an average approval rate of roughly 74%, according to the Illinois Separation organization. If the latest measures pass, the movement will gain support across a remarkable portion of Illinois's county map. Yet, these counties represent far less of the state's population than Chicago and its suburbs. And therein lies the political fault line driving this movement! Illinois may be one state legally, but politically and culturally, it increasingly looks like two different worlds: Chicago and Cook County on one side, and rural, small-town Illinois on the other. These communities have vastly different priorities on taxation, policing, firearms, education, immigration, and the size of government. With legislative representation determined by population, the Chicago metropolitan region wields enormous influence over statewide politics. So, what happens when residents feel permanently outvoted by a distant political culture? They begin asking a revolutionary question: If political differences are nearly permanent, why not redraw the boundaries?

 

This is where Illinois connects with the Greater Idaho movement! Since 2020, eastern Oregon residents have voted on measures calling for their counties to leave Oregon and join Idaho. Thirteen Oregon counties have approved Greater Idaho measures over several election cycles. The argument parallels Illinois's: Rural eastern Oregonians contend that Portland politics dominate state decisions, imposing policies incompatible with eastern Oregon's culture and economy. But Greater Idaho does not seek a 51st state. Instead, it aims to move the Oregon-Idaho border westward, allowing participating counties to remain in the United States while joining Idaho's government. In contrast, the Illinois proposal goes further by envisioning a new state within the American Union, independent of Cook County. Despite these differences, a common dynamic animates both movements, and it's not just happening here!

 

Both movements are part of a broader phenomenon: internal—or soft—secession. Unlike external or hard secession, internal secession rearranges political authority within the existing constitutional order. Greater Idaho would transfer counties from one state to another. Illinois Separation would create another state, but its residents would remain American citizens under the Constitution. Neither movement advocates for national independence, a separate military, new currency, or withdrawal from the United States. External—or hard—secession, by contrast, involves a territory severing governmental ties completely to become an independent nation, as seen in Alberta, Quebec, and the former Yugoslavia. Illinois Separation and Greater Idaho are internal territorial reorganization movements—dramatic yet constitutional in their objectives.

 

The Constitution provides a pathway! Article IV, Section 3 states a new state cannot be formed from an existing state without the affected state legislature and Congress's consent. Illinois Separation would require approval from the Illinois General Assembly and Congress. Greater Idaho would need agreement from Oregon and Idaho, followed by congressional consent. County referendums alone cannot redraw boundaries—but they can build the political pressure necessary to start the process. These votes matter even when nonbinding. They document discontent, organize supporters, and force political leaders to address grievances they might otherwise ignore. Idaho's House has expressed willingness to discuss the Greater Idaho proposal, while Oregon lawmakers introduced—but did not advance—measures in 2025 to establish a border task force or open negotiations with Idaho. Illinois faces a formidable obstacle: convincing Springfield politicians to relinquish territory and potentially create two new U.S. senators. That is an extraordinary political hurdle, and nobody should pretend otherwise. These movements have a constitutional pathway, but having a pathway does not guarantee an easy journey.

 

As we witness these vital political shifts, it's essential to stay informed and engaged. For deeper insights and cultural analysis on these unfolding events, start listening today. Start listening today.

 

Yet, the deeper significance cannot be dismissed. Greater Idaho and Illinois Separation represent a reawakening of local political identity. Their supporters assert they should not have to abandon their homes, farms, churches, communities, and multigenerational roots to find a government that reflects their values. Instead of moving people, they want to move the borders! The real story is not just whether Illinois becomes two states or whether Idaho's border reaches westward. It's that growing numbers of Americans no longer believe our existing political boundaries adequately represent the communities living within them. They are turning away from external secession toward something potentially more practical: peaceful, democratic, constitutional internal separation. The map has not changed yet—but the demand for change is spreading. Thirty-three Illinois counties have spoken, 12 more are preparing to vote, and the same political earthquake is shaking eastern Oregon. The ultimate question is no longer whether these movements are serious. It is whether America’s political establishment will continue ignoring them—or finally rediscover the founding principle that legitimate government begins with the consent of the governed!

 

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